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	<title>Comments on: The Dark Possibilities of Salisbury&#8217;s New Noise Ordinance</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Albero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Albero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try this word out for size, IDIOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this word out for size, IDIOT!</p>
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		<title>By: earlybird</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re your mad rhetorical skillz, your portent of the dire possibilities for selective political oppression contained in the aforesaid noise ordinance is quite possibly the silliest, and most cartoonish variation of a standard issue tin foil hat argument I&#039;ve ever seen. Whether the municipal authorities of Salisbury can construct a common sense noise ordinance with appropriate penalties, and bond requirements is one issue, and a completely valid topic for discussion.

To claim, however, that &quot;The excessive amount of the bond was the whole point of the post&quot; is a silly little fig leaf, to say the least. The article was all about the danger posed by an elaborate multi-level conspiracy that would make up charges out of thin air, and that this would be implemented by a throughly corrupt police department. In your breathless example any &quot;danger&quot; to innocents posed in this scenario, irrespective of the bond amount, requires the construction of a potential conspiracy that involves a coordinated campaign of selective harassment of political enemies, massive corruption throughout the police ranks from the top levels all the way to the street, and directing it all the diabolical Mayor and her flying monkey henchmen.

This hysterical hyper ventilating is, for the lack of better term, just plain pig stupid. That I have to diagram this out for you is as sad as the notion that you can&#039;t even logically parse out the content of your own posts. Tilghman is not an especially adept or skilled administrator, nor in truth, a particularly good Mayor. The only thing that saves her is that those opposing her are even bigger nincompoops than she is. Your article re the noise ordinance is Prima-Facie evidence of that fact.

&quot;.... and your little dog too!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re your mad rhetorical skillz, your portent of the dire possibilities for selective political oppression contained in the aforesaid noise ordinance is quite possibly the silliest, and most cartoonish variation of a standard issue tin foil hat argument I&#8217;ve ever seen. Whether the municipal authorities of Salisbury can construct a common sense noise ordinance with appropriate penalties, and bond requirements is one issue, and a completely valid topic for discussion.</p>
<p>To claim, however, that &#8220;The excessive amount of the bond was the whole point of the post&#8221; is a silly little fig leaf, to say the least. The article was all about the danger posed by an elaborate multi-level conspiracy that would make up charges out of thin air, and that this would be implemented by a throughly corrupt police department. In your breathless example any &#8220;danger&#8221; to innocents posed in this scenario, irrespective of the bond amount, requires the construction of a potential conspiracy that involves a coordinated campaign of selective harassment of political enemies, massive corruption throughout the police ranks from the top levels all the way to the street, and directing it all the diabolical Mayor and her flying monkey henchmen.</p>
<p>This hysterical hyper ventilating is, for the lack of better term, just plain pig stupid. That I have to diagram this out for you is as sad as the notion that you can&#8217;t even logically parse out the content of your own posts. Tilghman is not an especially adept or skilled administrator, nor in truth, a particularly good Mayor. The only thing that saves her is that those opposing her are even bigger nincompoops than she is. Your article re the noise ordinance is Prima-Facie evidence of that fact.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;. and your little dog too!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Chaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bond was excessive, even if he does live in Delmar. He owns property worth more than $50,000 in Maryland that could have been siezed if he fled, why would he even flee? Give me a break.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bond was excessive, even if he does live in Delmar. He owns property worth more than $50,000 in Maryland that could have been siezed if he fled, why would he even flee? Give me a break&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: sickofsmallsbarrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>sickofsmallsbarrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlybird thinks he is Tacitus, acts like Tiberius.</description>
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		<title>By: Cato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh Earlybird, if only it were true.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Albero was not arrested for violating a court order.  That is not what I wrote, and if you will examine the list of charges on the bond sheet you will notice that contempt is not one of the charges listed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is my understanding that part of the deal in dropping all of the charges was that Mr. Albero would not go on zoo property.  To the best of my knowledge he has obeyed that agreement.  But remember, this was AFTER the arrest at the zoo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you cannot understand the civil liberties implications of a $50,000 bail bond for a MISDEMEANOR arrest, then I&#039;m sorry.  You must have more money than sense.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The excessive amount of the bond was the whole point of the post.  IF (remember, I can&#039;t predict the future any better than you can) the Mayor and Chief Webster decided to selectively enforce this noise ordinance (which would be very easy to do) AND a political opponent of Barrie&#039;s was arrested and held on a $50,000 bond they could easily spend several days in jail before a JUDGE would reduce the bond.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With all due respect, I will match my rhetorical and analytical skills against your&#039;s any day.  Next time get someone to read the post to you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Earlybird, if only it were true.</p>
<p>Mr. Albero was not arrested for violating a court order.  That is not what I wrote, and if you will examine the list of charges on the bond sheet you will notice that contempt is not one of the charges listed.</p>
<p>It is my understanding that part of the deal in dropping all of the charges was that Mr. Albero would not go on zoo property.  To the best of my knowledge he has obeyed that agreement.  But remember, this was AFTER the arrest at the zoo.</p>
<p>If you cannot understand the civil liberties implications of a $50,000 bail bond for a MISDEMEANOR arrest, then I&#8217;m sorry.  You must have more money than sense.</p>
<p>The excessive amount of the bond was the whole point of the post.  IF (remember, I can&#8217;t predict the future any better than you can) the Mayor and Chief Webster decided to selectively enforce this noise ordinance (which would be very easy to do) AND a political opponent of Barrie&#8217;s was arrested and held on a $50,000 bond they could easily spend several days in jail before a JUDGE would reduce the bond.</p>
<p>With all due respect, I will match my rhetorical and analytical skills against your&#8217;s any day.  Next time get someone to read the post to you.</p>
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		<title>By: earlybird</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 06:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So... let me understand this, because on it&#039;s face, your “example” is, quite frankly, utterly retarded.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are conflating the potential selective enforcement of a noise ordinance with  a scenario where someone was ordered by the court to keep their distance from a location, deliberately violated that order, and was (according to your description) arrested. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I read this, and I’ve really got to think to myself  “What in the world is going on in your head?” What precisely is the point you’re try to make here? That a vaguely constructed noise ordinance is possibly subject to abusive enforcement because Joe Albero was arrested for deliberately violating a court order to stay away from a specific location? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is this what passes for deep thinking in this neck of the woods? This is beyond apple and oranges, this is apples and zebras.  The name “Cato’ implies practical wisdom, if this little missive is indicative of your cognitive skills you had best apply for village idiot.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; let me understand this, because on it&#8217;s face, your “example” is, quite frankly, utterly retarded.</p>
<p>You are conflating the potential selective enforcement of a noise ordinance with  a scenario where someone was ordered by the court to keep their distance from a location, deliberately violated that order, and was (according to your description) arrested. </p>
<p>I read this, and I’ve really got to think to myself  “What in the world is going on in your head?” What precisely is the point you’re try to make here? That a vaguely constructed noise ordinance is possibly subject to abusive enforcement because Joe Albero was arrested for deliberately violating a court order to stay away from a specific location? </p>
<p>Is this what passes for deep thinking in this neck of the woods? This is beyond apple and oranges, this is apples and zebras.  The name “Cato’ implies practical wisdom, if this little missive is indicative of your cognitive skills you had best apply for village idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Chaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ro-blow-sin, don&#039;t you have your own blog to rule the world now that you have nothing else useful to do with your life? Let us know what you want to be when you grow up, that&#039;s OK you want to be a fireman today and a garbage man the next, we expect no less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ro-blow-sin, don&#8217;t you have your own blog to rule the world now that you have nothing else useful to do with your life? Let us know what you want to be when you grow up, that&#8217;s OK you want to be a fireman today and a garbage man the next, we expect no less.</p>
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		<title>By: Tulsa Pulper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tulsa Pulper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Robinson:

Please go play with the other kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Robinson:</p>
<p>Please go play with the other kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Bummer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can see the future now:

Debbie Campbell&#039;s son does a yard sale in their driveway (is this deja vu, or what).

He says &quot;WOW&quot; when a customer agrees to pay full price for something, or (if you don&#039;t like that scenario) Barrie tells him to stop and he says &quot;but lady, I&#039;m just a kid.&quot;

He is arrested for making noise.

Ms. Campbell sees what happened and when she questions the officer about the charge she is arrested.

Barrie arrives at Terry Cohen&#039;s house ...


And the following is not a joke -- the Commissioner who set Albero&#039;s bail bond at $50,000 should be fired forthwith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can see the future now:</p>
<p>Debbie Campbell&#8217;s son does a yard sale in their driveway (is this deja vu, or what).</p>
<p>He says &#8220;WOW&#8221; when a customer agrees to pay full price for something, or (if you don&#8217;t like that scenario) Barrie tells him to stop and he says &#8220;but lady, I&#8217;m just a kid.&#8221;</p>
<p>He is arrested for making noise.</p>
<p>Ms. Campbell sees what happened and when she questions the officer about the charge she is arrested.</p>
<p>Barrie arrives at Terry Cohen&#8217;s house &#8230;</p>
<p>And the following is not a joke &#8212; the Commissioner who set Albero&#8217;s bail bond at $50,000 should be fired forthwith.</p>
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		<title>By: John Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any law that keeps Joe Albero at BAY is a good law.  He has proven himeself to be nothing more than a liar and to be a thorn in the side of people who are trying the best they can.

In all seriousness,  this noise law is stupid.  I witneesed first hand police enter a home illegally because college kids were watching TV to loud.  It was Monday night football and they were not drinking.  They started to search the house util I threw them out.  This law is NOT needed and will only prove to give those FEW, not all, idiots more power than they need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any law that keeps Joe Albero at BAY is a good law.  He has proven himeself to be nothing more than a liar and to be a thorn in the side of people who are trying the best they can.</p>
<p>In all seriousness,  this noise law is stupid.  I witneesed first hand police enter a home illegally because college kids were watching TV to loud.  It was Monday night football and they were not drinking.  They started to search the house util I threw them out.  This law is NOT needed and will only prove to give those FEW, not all, idiots more power than they need.</p>
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